Traveller-digest     Friday, September 3 1999     Volume 1999 : Number 1054



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The following topics are covered in this digest:

Weather control (was streamlining)
Re: New Picture
Re: standards of beauty
Re: Sailor Moon (OT)
Re: THUDDD anyone?
Re: THUDDD anyone?
Re: Sailor Moon (OT)
OT-Sailor Moon
Re: Inter species relationships
Re: OT-Sailor Moon
Re: OT-Sailor Moon
THUDDD organizational discussions
Re: request for URLs with Traveller pictures
Re: Inter species relationships
Re: Phil McGregor
Re: Inter species relationships
Re: Merchandise Fads (Was RE:GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants)
Re: Inter species relationships
Re: Inter species relationships
Re: Vargr Noses (Was RE: standards of beauty) 
Re: Ship Damage...Oh my! (was Lost Keith Supplements "refund") 
Re: OT-Sailor Moon
Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1053
Re: Inter species relationships

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:30:36 -0400
From: "Terry Carlino" <carlino@home.com>
Subject: Weather control (was streamlining)

>>
>> OT: can "weather control" actually be a possibility?  Or. perhaps more
>> accurately, is "weather control" more of a long term "terra-forming" type
>> thing?  In other words, more like "increase rain and reduce drought"
rather
>> than "make day 245 clear and sunny with a temperature in the mid 70's in
a
>> particular city"?
>>
>I seem to recall a proposal somewhere to use mastery of chaos math and
>robotic butterflies.  Otherwise, all I understand (from dating a geologist
>and sci fi fan for several years) tends towards the former, but with a
>little more accuracy and flexibility, IOW setting up tendencies towards
some
>desired weather for limited periods of time.  It also depends on what you
>are trying to achieve; seeding clouds is one thing, but keeping them away.
>There are two major problems, though, you're dealing with geological
>processes (okay, metorologic, but cut from the same cloth) over geologic
>time.  You can affect one on a limited basis, but that limited basis is
>still running on a geologic time frame, and might take a bit longer or last
>a bit longer than you would like.  It's also damnably hard to alter a part
>of such a massive system without causing alterations in the rest of that
>system, which can be overcome by doing something else, which cause more
>problems, ad infinitum...

>J.S.

Ben Bova, the science fiction author/editor, wrote a novel on weather
control in the early seventies. In it a physicists/meteorologist uses his
theories of the behavior of fluid systems to change the weather. He has a
friend at an orbital anti-missile platform use a high powered laser in an
unauthorized experiment to steer a hurricane away from Florida (I think it
was), by creating a high pressure front. Unfortunately there's all kinds of
other unexpected side effects to the weather in other areas. I can't
remember the name of the book.

Terry C

All that is Gold does not glitter
Not all who travel are lost

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:37:32 -0400
From: Michael Peters <travelleri@home.com>
Subject: Re: New Picture

Mike

Great pic! Love the details, down to rivets! What is the pic done in?
Anyway nice work, hope to see more

Mike

Mike Linsenmayer wrote:
> 
> Hey again... The lurker posts once more.
> 
> I finally finished my water landing pic. The one I posted earlier was a ... well
> not finished... :)
>
- -- 
Mike Peters
travelleri@home.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:51:26 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: standards of beauty

Good points Kiri.  And I don't 'mull' over this.  The subject just happened
to come up.  I too refuse to watch those types of shows (in fact there is
darned little TV I watch at all), but not supporting such products sounds
like a good idea.  I can live without a few things.  :)

As far as the Traveller reference goes, who is to say what standard of
beauty may be used in the 3rd Imperium?  Or that it is even human?
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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:55:06 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon (OT)

>Nowhere did I say that was my philosophy. I've had this argument one too
>many times in my life. To put it simply, if you step away from your
>statement and look at it for just a minute, you'll see where I'm coming
from
>here. To attribute such nasty qualities to people based solely on their
>looks is absurd.
>
>Which is why you've now made it to my killfile. Have a nice life.

I do see where you are coming from.  But I do think you are pushing this
WAAAY out of shape here and getting defensive as if I am attacking you
personally, which doesn't make ANY sense.

If I've made your killfile so easy, then all I can say is "C'est Le Vie".
If you are so easily put off then I doubt I'll be wounded if you don't read
my posts anymore.


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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Jackson <ajackson@molly.iii.com>
Subject: Re: THUDDD anyone?

Jason T. Barnabas writes:
> Ok, I've finished most of the needed changes to the 
> new THUDDD site (http://THUDDD.homepage.com/).  
> What's say we reopen the voting on the last 
> competition (THUDDD 9).  NB:  If you want your vote 
> counted, you will need to vote again (old votes have 
> been lost) or cast one now.  The URL for voting is 
> http://THUDDD.homepage.com/thuddd9.html.

Oh, you could add the 'lab ship with superconducting supercollider' (whatever that abomination was named) to the voting page...

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:54:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Anthony Jackson <ajackson@molly.iii.com>
Subject: Re: THUDDD anyone?

Jason T. Barnabas writes:
> Ok, I've finished most of the needed changes to the 
> new THUDDD site (http://THUDDD.homepage.com/).  
> What's say we reopen the voting on the last 
> competition (THUDDD 9).  NB:  If you want your vote 
> counted, you will need to vote again (old votes have 
> been lost) or cast one now.  The URL for voting is 
> http://THUDDD.homepage.com/thuddd9.html.

Oh, you could add the 'lab ship with superconducting supercollider' (whatever that abomination was named) to the voting page...

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:59:28 -0400
From: "Terry Carlino" <carlino@home.com>
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon (OT)

>Boy, I thought most people get out of the "beautiful people are evil" stage
>when they graduate high-school. I guess I was wrong.

Boy, I thought most people get out of the "attack the position, not the
person" stage when the graduate high-school. I guess I was wrong.

Terry C

All that is Gold does not glitter
Not all who travel are lost

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:05:44 -0400
From: "Terry Carlino" <carlino@home.com>
Subject: OT-Sailor Moon

>I disagree.  If they had marketed the original toys and had any sort of
>policy in doing so, the show would have ruled as it has in every other
>country.  But Disney and Hanna-Barbera dominate the appropriate timeslots.
>In 90% of the areas where it screened, Sailor Moon was running before
>dawn, or when its primary audience was in school (2:00 pm or so-- it's not
>a preschool audience show).

Not to disagree, but--Sailor Moon plays in the very sought after late
afternoon time slot on the East Coast.  Among my 14 year old's friends, male
and female it is very popular. Most know the whole plotline (from having
visited the Sailor Moon sites on the web).

Terry C

All that is Gold does not glitter
Not all who travel are lost

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:23:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Inter species relationships

>Once in Nebraska, I and a partner of mine were sitting holding hands and
>speaking in Japanese while I had a manga book lying on the table in a cafe.
>
>As I said above, I can pass for white very well.  My partner was not
>actually Japanese, but he looked close enough.
>
>Shortly after we entered the place three burly men came up to us and an
>older man who accompanied them informed us in a deadly tone of voice that he
>was a WWII veteran.
>
>We left in a big hurry.

[snip]

>Bigotry is everywhere... remember the list of epithets for the Fifth
>Frontier War?
>
>Kiri

OTOH, when she was 16 my great-aunt was sent to Ravensbruk, where she
survived several _years_ as an experimental medical subject.  She didn't
end up embittered, and was well able to distinguish between the Nazis who
tortured her and ordinary Germans. My grandfather survived WWI, the
Troubles in Ireland, and the Blitz in WWII, losing friends and over 2/3 of
his family along the way, and yet if he hated anyone I never learned of it.

I used to think of them as exceptional people, but I keep encountering
folks like them. I also encounter bigots, but the 'good folks' outnumber
them. The only problem is that the bigots are noisier (and more violent),
and thus tend to command greater notice.

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:25:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kiri Aradia Morgan <tiamat@tsoft.com>
Subject: Re: OT-Sailor Moon

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Terry Carlino wrote:

> >I disagree.  If they had marketed the original toys and had any sort of
> >policy in doing so, the show would have ruled as it has in every other
> >country.  But Disney and Hanna-Barbera dominate the appropriate timeslots.
> >In 90% of the areas where it screened, Sailor Moon was running before
> >dawn, or when its primary audience was in school (2:00 pm or so-- it's not
> >a preschool audience show).
> 
> Not to disagree, but--Sailor Moon plays in the very sought after late
> afternoon time slot on the East Coast.  Among my 14 year old's friends, male
> and female it is very popular. Most know the whole plotline (from having
> visited the Sailor Moon sites on the web).
> 
I was talking about its debut in 1995, not this year.

Kiri

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Kiri Aradia Morgan                                  93!  Thou Art God
tiamat@tsoft.com

"If time passes, everything turns into beauty
If the rains stop, tears clean the scars of memory away
Everything starts wearing fresh colors
Every sound begins playing a heartfelt melody
Jealousy embellishes a page of the epic
Desire is embraced in a dream..."              -- X-JAPAN 

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:34:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kiri Aradia Morgan <tiamat@tsoft.com>
Subject: Re: OT-Sailor Moon

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Chris Seamans wrote:

> Please direct any responses to email.
> 
Why?  Has anyone complained?

I'm sorry, but my experience with continuing conversations like these
privately is that I end up with twice the mail.  Anyhow, there shouldn't
be any need to go further with this.

> >Actually, you've got your facts wrong-- it wasn't Saban at all, it
> was >DiC.  Saban bid to do a live action version of the show.  It's
> truly >horrid-- I've seen their demo.
> 
> Either you're misunderstanding me, or you're the one with the wrong facts.
> Saban (no, I didn't spell it right initially) did the various Power Rangers
> shows. I was stating that they did it right by marketing the product to an
> American audience. Bandai, on the other hand, was pulling the strings on the
> Sailor Moon television show, and they got it wrong for an American audience.
> 
That wasn't clear.

> >No, Bandai's toys never were marketed here.  Irwin/Bandai America reworked
> >them all.
> 
> Irwin/Bandai American. _Bandai_ is the operative word.
> 
Yes, but in all the other markets (I have a huge collection of Sailor Moon
toys, and I have seen nearly all of them) the same toys were marketed,
with different packaging.  America and Canada got redesigned toys. Who
knows why?

> Disney and Hanna-Barbera dominating the after school timeslots? What decade
> are you living in? Hanna-Barbera has cut back on its syndication after the
> launch of their cable channel, The Cartoon Network, and the closest Disney
> ever was to dominating the after school market was in the late 80s. Nowadays
> you might see Duck Tales in syndication, and Hercules, and maybe one or two
> other shows here and there, but Disney hasn't been too interested in daytime
> syndicated TV for at least a decade.
> 
The Disney afternoon...?

> It's a moot point anyway, because Hanna-Barbera's Cartoon Network got the
> rights to air the show nationally in a reasonable timeslot after fans
> campaigned. It tanked.
> 
::shrug::  You've obviously confused me with someone that actually cares
about the DiC dub.  I don't.  I wasn't part of the campaign. It tanked
because the translation was awful, and because the toys reeked, and
because it got lousy timeslots.  I don't really care...

But I do know it's still on in syndication.

> >SM is hugely popular everywhere in Asia, Europe... the Italian dolls,
> >which I also own, were beautiful too.  Ours were noseless and had elephant
> >feet.
> 
> That may be so, in that case Bandai screwed up in more ways than one.
>
That *may* be so?  Come to my house, I'll SHOW you the toys.  I have
shelves of SM dolls and toys from Japan, Italy, Hong Kong, and even a few
US toys, but mostly the US/Canada toys reeked.

The dolls sold in Hong Kong, Europe, and the rest of Asia differed from
the Japanese dolls only in facepaint (not quite as detailed) and body
(better, more articulated). The US dolls were noseless, with huge feet--
they were ugly, they had no clothing line, and they couldn't wear Barbie
and Ken clothes.

It is death to market an 11.5" doll for girls that cannot wear Barbie's
clothes, ESPECIALLY if she doesn't have her own clothing line.

I don't want to discuss this in private mail, because I haven't time, but
it is OT and I don't think more needs to be said.

Kiri
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Kiri Aradia Morgan                                  93!  Thou Art God
tiamat@tsoftcom

"If time passes, everything turns into beauty
If the rains stop, tears clean the scars of memory away
Everything starts wearing fresh colors
Every sound begins playing a heartfelt melody
Jealousy embellishes a page of the epic
Desire is embraced in a dream..."              -- X-JAPAN 

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:32:57 -0700
From: "Jason T. Barnabas" <cybernaut@netzero.net>
Subject: THUDDD organizational discussions

I sent my latest announcement and recieved 5 copies 
of it from the 4 mailing lists I sent it to.  I also received 
multiple copies of the comments made by some.  
This tends to confuse me (and thus irritate me).  I 
don't need anymore confusion in my life, so I would 
like to ask that THUDDD organizational discussions 
be held exclusively on the goldinc.com ISBA list.

Toward this end, I will not respond to posts on 
organizational issues in any forum but that one.  
Future announcements will continue to go out to the 
TML and the Trav Tech lists, but I would appreciate it 
if you would refrain from posting organizational stuff 
on those lists.

If you would like to participate in the THUDDD 
organizational discussions, please subscribe to the 
goldinc.com ISBA list.

You may do this by sending an email to 
majordomo@goldinc.com with the single line:
>>>>>>
subscribe isba
<<<<<<
as the only text in the body.  The subject is ignored by 
the majordomo and can contain whatever you want 
(or nothing at all).

From my records, there has been no traffic on the 
ISBA main list this year other than a few sporatic 
THUDDD posts.
- --
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Jason Barnabas





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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:02:07 GMT
From: jzeitlin@cyburban.com (Jeff Zeitlin)
Subject: Re: request for URLs with Traveller pictures

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:29:56 -0400 (EDT), "Smart, David J (David)"
<dasmart@lucent.com> wrote:

>I was going through my laptop's collection of Traveller
>graphics and found one I'd completely forgotten about.
>It's a *beautiful* shot of two Imperial Planet-class
>armored cruisers moving past the moon of a blue, ringed
>gas giant. The focus is on the closest ship which almost
>fills the entire screen and just screams "badass warship".
>The overall graphic is rather dark but this just adds to
>the threatening tone.

>The problem is I can't remember which site I grabbed it
>from and it doesn't have the artist's name on it! Can
>anyone help me find the artist/site? I'd love to give
>him credit (I remember it was a "him") and hopefully
>find some more of his art. I'll be happy to send the
>.jpg to those who want a copy; its resolution is
>1028x800.

G-d, this sounds fantastic.  Send me a copy, and let me know if
you find a contact point for the artist - it sounds ideal for
Freelance Traveller's Multimedia Gallery.

In fact, as a favor to me, please do the same for all of your
Travelleresque favorites in your collection.

And that goes for the rest of you on this list, too.
- --
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin@cyburban.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:02:27 GMT
From: jzeitlin@cyburban.com (Jeff Zeitlin)
Subject: Re: Inter species relationships

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:41:31 -0400 (EDT), "Glenn M. Goffin"
<gmgoffin@pacbell.net> wrote:

>> From: Terry Mixon <tlmixon@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: Inter species relationships (was: GT Armor - Cheaper
>> Merchants, Faster Combat Craft)

>> Well, you could make some comment on the overall view of accepted 
>> practices in the Imperium. Say, what would the overall view of 
>> interspecies relationships? A guy and his Vargr ... well, we won't 

>Larry Niven coined a word for it:  rishathra (if I recall correctly). 
>It takes all kinds to make up known space, and who knows what sophonts
>will find attractive and how they will be accepted by the various
>societies.  

Yes, that was the word. I should reread the Ringworld stuff
again.


- --
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin@cyburban.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:02:36 GMT
From: jzeitlin@cyburban.com (Jeff Zeitlin)
Subject: Re: Phil McGregor

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:29:56 -0400 (EDT), "Jory Earl"
<j-man@iname.com> wrote:

>>Oh, definitely.... There were several "Phils" at the time, even. But the
>>others made certain to include last names (Like Phil McGreggor of Space
>>Opera and Starplay). No, Mr, K., you are NOTHIN' like the phil of whom I
>>typed.

>Whatever happened to Phil McGreggor?  He sent me all of his Starplay stuff
>but one of the disks was corrupted.

Phil still exists, and at the same email address - he's a regular
on soc.history.what-if and alt.history.what-if, where he and John
Freck take turns baiting each other.

- --
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin@cyburban.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:04:24 GMT
From: jzeitlin@cyburban.com (Jeff Zeitlin)
Subject: Re: Inter species relationships

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:29:56 -0400 (EDT), "Douglas E. Berry"
<gridlore@mindspring.com> wrote:

>At 11:03 PM 9/2/1999 -0700, you wrote:

>>Larry Niven coined a word for it:  rishathra (if I recall correctly). 
>>It takes all kinds to make up known space, and who knows what sophonts
>>will find attractive and how they will be accepted by the various
>>societies.  

>Rishathra was found on the Ringworld, which was populated by numerous
>humanoid species that were closely related.  This allowed the process.  I
>doubt that an Aslan and a human will even be able to recognize each other's
>genitals, let along find a way to make things work.

I have an available-for-private-sending-but-not-posting document
that originally appeared on this list lo these many years ago
that suggests otherwise.

- --
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin@cyburban.com

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:58:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Prior <robert_prior@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Merchandise Fads (Was RE:GT Armor - Cheaper Merchants)

>I've been thinking that if SJGames lets me I'd like to make my part of the
>Far Trader Designer's Notes article a kind of v1.1 of the Speculative
>Trade Rules (Ian Whitchurch has pointed out other things that could be
>improved) and "fad" goods are certainly something I'd like to include.
>I'll send a draft of those rules here for comments.

It would also make a decent Pyramid article. They've published rules
enhancements in the past...

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:11:59 GMT
From: jzeitlin@cyburban.com (Jeff Zeitlin)
Subject: Re: Inter species relationships

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:32:23 -0400 (EDT), Terry Mixon
<tlmixon@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I was not specificly thinking of only sexual relationships. I could 
>envision say a like minded human and Vargr having a relationship 
>like marriage even without any sex. People make alliances, even 
>personal ones, for many more reasons than sex.

If you can use JimV's GALACTIC, check out Amdukan sector's notes,
specifically the section on the "Panet relationship" in the
Julian Protectorate.  Originally from a Challenge magazine, but I
don't recall the number (I believe it's properly credited in
GAL).


- --
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin@cyburban.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 23:14:02 GMT
From: jzeitlin@cyburban.com (Jeff Zeitlin)
Subject: Re: Inter species relationships

On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:32:23 -0400 (EDT), Bruce Johnson
<johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:

>Terry Mixon wrote:

>> I was not specificly thinking of only sexual relationships. I could
>> envision say a like minded human and Vargr having a relationship
>> like marriage even without any sex. People make alliances, even
>> personal ones, for many more reasons than sex.

>Somewhere I have seen an article about the Julian Protectorate. I
>_believe_ that it is a HWIG document, but cannot vouch for it's
>'canonicity'. In it the author described a relationship like that
>between vargr and humans. I'll see if I can dig it up.

Canonical, and not HIWG (Challenge Magazine).  Summarized in GAL,
Amdukan Sector notes.  I believe it's properly referenced and
credited.

- --
Jeff Zeitlin
jzeitlin@cyburban.com

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 19:03:14 -0400
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: Vargr Noses (Was RE: standards of beauty) 

> On Friday, September 03, 1999 1:04 PM
> Eris reddoch said,
> 
> > IMTU, Vargr are also quite scent oriented.
> 
> So do you have Vargr scent tech?
> 
> I would imagine Vargr scent markers for some things, similar to carving your
> name on a possession.  Or because there color vision is not as acute scent
> coding of documents similar to color coding.
> 
> A scent based alarm could be interesting too.
> 
> I would imagine a Vargr that was forced to wear a vacsuit or filtermask
> would feel allot more cut off from the world than a Human.

It almost reminds me of that old Cheech & Chong routine with the dogs.  "Just 
a sec, gotta check my messages..." and he goes over to a fireplug to sniff it 
out...

Keven

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                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure
                                                     In Reavers' Deep

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 18:43:55 -0400
From: "Keven R. Pittsinger" <jamstar@accesstoledo.com>
Subject: Re: Ship Damage...Oh my! (was Lost Keith Supplements "refund") 

> Keven R. Pittsinger wrote:
> > 
> 
> > I say, go with the purple & red tuck & roll, with the fuzzy balls around the
> > viewports, and a big pair of fuzzy dice hanging from the rearview mirror.
> > 
> > Keven
> 
> Nikulturny peasant!

You betcha!

Keven

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- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                     Science-Fiction Adventure
                                                     In Reavers' Deep

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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:11:40 -0400
From: "Jory Earl" <j-man@iname.com>
Subject: Re: OT-Sailor Moon

>I don't want to discuss this in private mail, because I haven't time, but
>it is OT and I don't think more needs to be said.

Uh oh Kiri.  You're in trouble now.  You may even (oh my god!) have made his
"killfile"..  heh heh..


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Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:37:53 -0500
From: "Kurtis Rodgers" <kurtis@fastlane.net>
Subject: Re: Traveller-digest V1999 #1053

> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:08:46 -0500
> From: Eris reddoch <eris@pcola.gulf.net>
> Subject: AKUS MOBY Update (was Ship Damage...Oh my!)
<snip...>
> Update on the game...
>
> In my AKUS MOBY game, the PC's have finally gotten the ship they
> inherited.
<...snip, etc.>

Dude, you ROCK!  :)  (heheheh)

I've been lurking on and off the list for years, but only had a vague idea
what your celebrated campaign was like.  Despite missing out on the 'story
so far', however, I have to say: bravo!

The whole 'ship as an inheritance' plot element strongly reminded me of (the
late, lamented) Brian Daley's Hobart Floyt & Alacrity Fitzhugh novels.
Hadn't thought of those books in quite a while..., lots of good material for
idea mining there.  Hmm...  :P

Anyway, thanks for posting the story update.  Although I usually find
gamer's enthusiastic tale-telling of their own games is often like showing
strangers your home movies, I have to admit I'm impressed.  Quite the
ripping yarn, indeed!

I will mercilessly rip you off, of course.  ;)

Kurtis

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Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:39:35 -0300
From: Michel Vaillancourt <misha@empire.atlantic-online.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: Inter species relationships

At 11:36 AM 03/09/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Terry Mixon wrote:
>> 
>
>> I was not specificly thinking of only sexual relationships. I could
>> envision say a like minded human and Vargr having a relationship
>> like marriage even without any sex. People make alliances, even
>> personal ones, for many more reasons than sex.
>
>Somewhere I have seen an article about the Julian Protectorate. I
>_believe_ that it is a HWIG document, but cannot vouch for it's
>'canonicity'. In it the author described a relationship like that
>between vargr and humans. I'll see if I can dig it up.
>
>-- 
>Bruce Johnson

        Please do, Bruce...  the Vargr are probably my favorite canon race.
It would be interesting to get some more information on them.

        --Michel
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